Venhill quick action throttles

[DaR1]

Hows that Dar1 ? ?

Not out mate   

[scooby]

my track bike has 1 and it does make a difference.and yes i only Have 1 cable,don't know what all the fuss is about with only having 1 as nobody seems to know why there is 2  ???

how's that dar1? 

There is no way in hell i will ever ride a bike with only one cable 

seems a daft thing to do..


Hows that Dar1 ? ?

i'd have a check on the new gixxer then 

[katch]

Just cus newer bikes have it don't make it right..

probably a desperate move for weight saving as they ran out of ideas..   


My view is what happens if your cable frays slightly and one of the metal strands catchs inside its sheath..  With no return cable to pull it and force it back through your pretty buggered and mid corner or mid wheelie i'd rather not have that..

Loads of biker neglect there bikes and i bet there are loads on here who have never ever lubed the throttle cable to stop it rubbing and fraying inside.. rain and dirt find ther way in all the time..

My reason for thinking its more accurate throttle control is.. ther is a dual action control the smallest of movement in either direction is imediately recognised... with one cable any tightness or lack of smooth operation or even sticking carbs / throttle bodies will be evident and there can be a delay and or even a jolt as it releases.

for the sake of 30grams i would rather have a 2nd cable.

 

[Gaz]

Are you absolutely sure about that ? 

Hmm, you might be right. I think there may have been a second adjuster at the throttle body end, but I ain't taking the airbox off to often to check  . However, I seem to remember it being on the same cable (opening cable) as the grip adjuster

[scooby]

Just cus newer bikes have it don't make it right..

probably a desperate move for weight saving as they ran out of ideas..   


My view is what happens if your cable frays slightly and one of the metal strands catchs inside its sheath..  With no return cable to pull it and force it back through your pretty buggered and mid corner or mid wheelie i'd rather not have that..

Loads of biker neglect there bikes and i bet there are loads on here who have never ever lubed the throttle cable to stop it rubbing and fraying inside.. rain and dirt find ther way in all the time..

My reason for thinking its more accurate throttle control is.. ther is a dual action control the smallest of movement in either direction is imediately recognised... with one cable any tightness or lack of smooth operation or even sticking carbs / throttle bodies will be evident and there can be a delay and or even a jolt as it releases.

for the sake of 30grams i would rather have a 2nd cable.

 

never said it was standard on the bike,just mine doesn't have it.

and imo,the cable has very little,if any relevence regarding the return,it's mainly down to the spring on the bodies.


Loads of biker neglect there bikes and i bet there are loads on here who have never ever lubed the throttle cable to stop it rubbing and fraying inside.. rain and dirt find ther way in all the time..


sorry,don't see the relevance of that,as the list of things that never  get done by most bikers would be very long,and can think of a lot of things that would go before lubing the throttle cable.

[Sheepy]

Right,  lets get rid of the urban myths here and give you 100% facts

(please feel free to check against the info gained from 25 yrs experience)

all bikes was supplied with 1 cable but thanks to our american cousins, they insisted there was a 2 cable system fitted for the reason of safety...

Like your cable will snap and the throttle linkage sieze at the same moment 

Ive worked at a Honda main dealers as well  (Bill Smith Honda, Liverpool)  and still never heard of this bizzarr situation ever arise

The fact that there is not 1 return spring on the throttle linkages, there is more likely 4, 1 for each carb/ throttle body to control butterfly valve closure and apply the same pressure to each to control tick over positions.

As far as throttles go,  throttle bodies and carbs are exactly the same in respect of the cable operation so a QA will fit either

The conversion back to 1 cable is NOT for weight saving..  its to make the throttle control precise.  As kerm pointed out,  if its on a 2 cable system and its not synced precislly there will be a over lap of operation between open and close that will counter act the next operation for a split second and cause a surge as more pressure will have to be used momentererly. Not good when your cranked over and you pull on the throttle to exit a corner.

As far as a damaged cable causing a problem,  you will feel it or it will snap well before it becomes a problem,  if this 2 cable system had basis,  why is it not fitted to car throttles or lorries/ buses/ coaches that would be a problem if it stuck?
I have worked on HGVs, PSVs, PLG and never seen a 2 cable system fitted

2 cable system is bollox and the fact that prob 90% of them are not adjusted properly so in itself causes problems.

Cable will become extinct soon as its all going fly by wire but in the mean time, get that shite 2 cable system out and go back to what we know is the best system,
1 cable - single smooth operation

Still not convinced?

PM Phil Seton Racing, Ihe will say exactly that as well  ???

[Legzr1]

Reet then - if you're racing full time go for a q/a throttle.


If not,don't bother?






 

[Sheepy]

Reet then - if you're racing full time go for a q/a throttle.


If not,don't bother?






 

Now I cant argue with that 

QA throttles are fab tho,  makes it as smooth as a babies bottom 

[scream]

makes it as smooth as a babies bottom 

have you been hanging round wih alec?   

[Sheepy]

have you been hanging round wih alec?   

Dont know what you mean jay?   

[Alec]

Dont know what you mean jay?   

You never said you were going to post a photo of my girlfriend on here Sheep.

Now Choccy will find out that we went out as a foursome with her younger sister. 

[R1Boy]

nice post shee[ 

[DaR1]

So i re-iterate my earlier post. Is there any point in having one other than for racing? Are there any benefits to having one on a road bike??

[Gaz]

So i re-iterate my earlier post. Is there any point in having one other than for racing? Are there any benefits to having one on a road bike??

I wouldn't recommend it for the road - slow speed control and small throttle movements in heavy traffic would be a nightmare.

[tight 5]

throttle cables ? how quaint !