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Scary.............
« on: July 24, 2010, 01:42:25 PM »
was recently sent a failed Brembo m/cylinder for overhaul which is unusual as they rarely need re-bulidong but he was adamant it required it so no hassle and arranged for it to be sent to Brembo technical for sorting...............



had busrt the main seal and lost all its fluid during a race, scary pants time me thinks

got a phone call from Brembo to say it wasn't posible to overhaul and did i know its origins/outlet from where it was purchased? which i thought was strange to say the least, on further explanation it turns out to be a (fairly passable) copy
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Re: Scary.............
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2010, 01:44:46 PM »
comparisojn with  genuine Brembo radial cylinder, think most people would be fooled without seeing both together!!!

genuine behind in this shot


genuine to the left in this shot


genuine bottom on this shot
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2010, 01:47:17 PM »
i read somewhere the main bits to look out for (that the copy doesn't have on it)will try to find it.


i reckon theres loads of people out there with dodgey ones that they got a off ebay for a "bargain"  :o

*found it*


have a look through this list Alyn and see if it's right.

The main differences are the area around the lever pivot on a Brembo is machined flat on bith sides and later cylinders have the dimensions stamped on the top flat, wheras the copies are rough cast.

The finish of the copies is a slightly gloss painted type finish and Brembo's are dull anodized finish, the same goes for the pushrod/span adjuster etc, these are gloss black on the copies and satin/matt on Brembo's.
the clips for the lever pivot pin is black on the copy and silver on Brembo

There is no stamping or etching on the copy levers and are a rougher finish/ not as machined and brembo have the ratio # etched or stamped either on the ball of the lever or in the cut-out just near the span adjuster.
The span adjuter on the copy is really stiff and doesn't 'click' nicely.

The copies come with a reservoir and hose fitted, there is no branding on the reservoir, brembo's dont come with res and the brembo res has the 'B' logo on the lid.

The bleed nipple on the copy is 8 or 10mm nut and Brembo's are 11mm.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2010, 01:50:38 PM by scooby »
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Re: Scary.............
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2010, 02:49:24 PM »
pretty much right although this one here has an 11mm bleed nipple as per the genuine one.......hopefully a better picture so you can see the colour difference, the copy is more of a "green" grey and is behind in this pic

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Re: Scary.............
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2010, 03:26:45 PM »
fukin nuts to fuk about with breaks, who are these people selling them, name and shame them in a big way
« Last Edit: July 24, 2010, 03:44:51 PM by mark evans »

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Re: Scary.............
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2010, 03:54:06 PM »
probablly 50% of ebay.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 04:26:24 PM »
unfortunately this customer bought a ZX10R race bike s/hand with it already fitted so no idea where it came from...........

people keep telling me that this cheap Chinese stuff is good for the market but i wouldn't give it the time of day!!
the silly thing is when you look at the trouble they have gone to it wouldn't have taken much more to actually make it PROPERLY!!!
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Re: Scary.............
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 09:53:15 PM »
I wouldnt be able to tell the difference either tbh

Looks like the only time your able to tell is when they fail  :yikes

Thanks for the heads up  :thumbsup:

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Re: Scary.............
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2010, 04:33:16 AM »
That is scary, makes you think how much responsibility is on the seller should one of these fakes fail and cause a serious accident :o

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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2010, 09:18:18 AM »
The only way to stop it, is to use a reputable supplier. :thumbsup:

Although it is frightening to think how many people are using a cheap copy.


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Re: Scary.............
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2010, 10:23:34 AM »
The only way to stop it, is to use a reputable supplier. :thumbsup:

Although it is frightening to think how many people are using a cheap copy.



As Alyn said in this situation, it doesn't help if you buy a bike with a dodgy component already fitted.
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2010, 10:35:20 AM »
As Alyn said in this situation, it doesn't help if you buy a bike with a dodgy component already fitted.

True, but thanks to this post people may be a little wiser to be able to tell an original from a copy :thumbsup:

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2010, 11:59:27 AM »
Sheep would buy em ;)

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2010, 12:47:46 PM »
Sheep would buy em ;)

He's probably the one selling them :LOL
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2010, 03:06:06 PM »
Sheep would buy em ;)

and no doubt be telling us how foolish we all are fo spending more.......... :LOL
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