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K2 Bandit
« on: February 03, 2012, 12:12:42 PM »
I was wondering if its normal for my K2 600 bandit (carb model) to need choke out for 5 mins and then 3-4 mile run before it will pull cleanly and i can shut the choke off ? i'm using the correct spark plugs its done 6000 miles.thanks in advance for any advice. unsure whether to try a hotter /colder plug ?
« Last Edit: February 03, 2012, 07:33:38 PM by trigger »
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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 06:16:26 PM »
No that does not sound normal to me - even in these cold conditions it does not sound correct.

Fuel injection or Carbs?
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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 06:58:23 PM »
I had an SV650 that used to do that in cold weather .. :thumbsup:

It also suffered horribly from Carb Icing as the Carb Heaters had packed up
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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 07:40:33 PM »
I had an SV650 that used to do that in cold weather .. :thumbsup:

It also suffered horribly from Carb Icing as the Carb Heaters had packed up

Just realised if it is manual choke it is carbs.
For the Carbs to ice up it would need to do a few miles first - running just fine before they ice up? that has been my experience of icing carbs.

But perhaps it is normal going by your post for Suzuki's to do this?

If it is not normal then I suspect it is this
If an engine is running on choke then you are enriching the air / fuel ratio yourself with the choke in other words not enough fuel or too much air is getting into the system. In other words the engine is running lean.

Check the following

  1. An air leak has developed around the carburetor areas and is allowing too much air into the combustion chamber.

Check the seals and rubbers around the Carbs for leaks.

  2. Fuel system contamination has resulted in the air and fuel regulator jets inside of the carburetor to become clogged.

I do not know your model but inside the Carbs should be an emulsifier tube that allows air and fuel to mix to help the fuel to atomise when it is "injected" into the inlet track.

  3. Fuel jets are blocked.

This would mean not enough fuel is getting into the system.

  4. Often carbs can also play up if they are not in synchronised.

So synchronising the Carbs could be a good idea.

  5. Fuel line is not pinched etc and you have a fuel restriction.

Check your fuel line - if you have a fuel pump I would think that is OK cause your bike does run fine after a while it just struggles while it is cold.



I.e. give your carbs a really good service and clean.

If your engine is running lean this can cause damage - it is better for an engine to run rich than to run lean - so check it out if I was you and not assume it is normal. {Which of cause it could be, it is cold and Carbs can be a little temperamental}

« Last Edit: February 03, 2012, 07:52:32 PM by RichieRotten »
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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 07:51:25 PM »
as well as the above, HT leads can cause this if they are damp resulting in a weak spark for a cold motor. try spraying them in WD40 or similar.

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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2012, 08:18:47 PM »
thanks ,plenty food for thought . will check out the suggestions when weather breaks in next few days .
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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2012, 08:32:41 PM »
Just realised if it is manual choke it is carbs.

I have a 2004 ZX636B1h fuel injected with a manual choke  :thumbsup:


Carb icing can happen at any time, even in the middle of summer, atmospheric conditions contribute (humidity) also as the venturi on the carb causes the air to be pressurised as it enters the carbs this causes the air temperature to drop water molecules in the air freeze causing the icing  :thumbsup:

My suggestion would be to clean the carbs change the air filter and check the carb heaters are working  :thumbsup:

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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 07:35:56 AM »
I have a 2004 ZX636B1h fuel injected with a manual choke  :thumbsup:

Well I never that does surprise me, I would of thought that all injector systems could take care of the cold on their own - well that does surprise me. I stand corrected.
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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 09:45:48 AM »
my gixer is fuel injected and has a choke as well  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

My zx7r used to carb ice even though the carb heaters were working, any damp cold day and it would fart about  :thumbsup:

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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 01:39:38 PM »
just checked the plugs and the electrodes are white ,i was gonna try next colder ones (cr10ek) instead of cr9ek ? but i see on internet illustration that some have 2 small spark jump bittys on the electrode and some have one ? the current ones have two.?????
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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2012, 03:42:34 PM »
Isn't a CR10 a hotter plug then a CR9 ?

Twin electrode gives you more consistant spark  :thumbsup:

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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2012, 06:56:35 PM »
the choke thing on fuel injection bikes is just an idle control guy's. the sensors take care of the fuelling.
some still call it a choke though regardless  :005_stongue:

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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2012, 07:03:56 PM »
the choke thing on fuel injection bikes is just an idle control guy's. the sensors take care of the fuelling.
some still call it a choke though regardless  :005_stongue:

it my well adjust the idle but not on mine it adjust the butterflys aswell, you can see it with the airbox off  :thumbsup:

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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2012, 07:26:00 PM »
i dont care now................ mine hasn't got one  :LOL

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Re: K2 Bandit
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2012, 07:32:56 PM »
LOL like the FU attitude  :bootyshake: